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Idea for an exploit via the 1.5 updater

 
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MumblyOMOD



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Idea for an exploit via the 1.5 updater Reply with quote

Okay, so the psp was released in Japan as the 1.0. The 1.0 could run unencrypted code, so the 1.5 update was released fixing this issue. Then the US psp was released, already updated to 1.5. Then Sony released the 1.51 update in Japan only and said that users with the 1.5 update did not need to update the 1.51. Upon thinking about this information, I thought of a scenario that fits all this information. That the security flaw isn't with the 1.5 firmware, but with the 1.5 firmware installer. This would explain why 1.5 users wouldn't need to upgrade to 1.51 and why the 1.51 update hasn't been released for the US psp's. Since US psp's are already at 1.5, there would be no reason to update to 1.51 if the flaw was in the updater application itself. I have no idea how this might be able to be exploited, but I thought that this idea might prove useful.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1.51 update has been released in the US. When I have my US 1.5 scan for updates it finds and downloads 1.51.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where have you been?

What we need is someone to download the 1.5 firmware(now that 1.51 is released, that might be impossible) and reverse engineer it to find any clues about how to enable the encryption/signing methods that were enabled in the 1.5 firmware. This would be an auxiliary step towards making homebrew because then once code can be run on 1.5 PSPs, a 'hacked' firmware could be released to disable this encryption/signing to forever unlock 1.5 systems.
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Busby



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What we need is someone to download the 1.5 firmware(now that 1.51 is released, that might be impossible)


Loads of people have the 1.50 update downloaded.
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Erant



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F9zDark wrote:
Where have you been?

What we need is someone to download the 1.5 firmware(now that 1.51 is released, that might be impossible) and reverse engineer it to find any clues about how to enable the encryption/signing methods that were enabled in the 1.5 firmware. This would be an auxiliary step towards making homebrew because then once code can be run on 1.5 PSPs, a 'hacked' firmware could be released to disable this encryption/signing to forever unlock 1.5 systems.


Oh, alright, I've got the 1.50 updater. Lemme just get this little black box with the big button that says "REVERSE ENGINEER", and hook it up to the PSP.

But seriously, there is no way you're going to reverse engineer the encrypted PSAR file. For starters, you don't know for sure wether or not it's AES encrypted. And even if it was, you wouldn't have the key. (Don't start about bruteforcing, you already look dumb, don't make it worse). And after that, you don't know how it's compressed, you don't know which parts are compressed, etc. etc.
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Histo



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the 1.50 firmware is still on Sony's servers they never took it off when they released the 1.51 update.
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Vampire



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Histo wrote:
Actually the 1.50 firmware is still on Sony's servers they never took it off when they released the 1.51 update.

no, it isn't there anymore. they took it off a few hours/days after they released the 1.51 update.
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jimmygoon



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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I truly believe that every topic with the word "idea" in it should be instantly closed and deleted.
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MumblyOMOD



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it's in legible english
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