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IceBerg · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 13

I can confirm the browser has no media support (mp3, avi, mp4 etc) built in. That isnt uncommon, I mena Frirefox and IE neither have media capabilities built in. The full version of the browser (the 2.0 bios, the 1.7 will be released in summer and 2.0 in late fall) will utilize the built in media functions of the psp. I will be doing some testing on how the wipeout browser handels xml and js. I think is is the rawest form of the browser, and it does appear to be in the game not the bios from what I can see. Incidentaly I dont have a machine set up for packet capture, so if someone could send me the full link the psp accesses (the us unit) when it looks for a bios update I would appriciate it.

xfluxlab · Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 2

i dont think this was mentioned on this board ...or maybe it has ....then sorry ...but aparently no need for proxies...

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psp&message.id=289619

senas8 · Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 56 Location: Romania/USA

[quote="Agntneo"]/me claps his hands.

Bravo roto, really interesting that Wipeout has a browser included.
I wonder if you could have a chance to upload/ download files with it, perhaps access the memory card or even see the UMD contents?
If so are they encrypted?

I think I will buy Wipeout pure, but the PSP isn't released in Europe yet.
Well good luck to you roto.
I hope you get some more experimenting with this.
By the way, what firmware version are you using?
I don't belive it uses anything from the firmware though, just a thought.
[quote="Thank you"]

What is neat about that idea is ...lets say you could view the UMD content of wipeout ..well all you would have to do is remove the wipeout game and replace it with another game or umd movie...because you see after I connected to internet with the wipeout browser I removed the wipeout UMD and I could still surf the net with out the game being in there for about and hour untill i quit.....so etc

senas8 · Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 56 Location: Romania/USA

Damn it double posts I had to edit this one.

Yoorah · Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 20

AlexGreen · Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 35 Location: Seattle

From this thread:

senas8 · Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 56 Location: Romania/USA

Yeah I believe any Game you put into the psp.... some of it is loaded into the ram...I mean I have tried ridgeracer, started the race and took the UMD out...lets you finish up the race, but gets messed up on the main menu, or I think it wont even load the menu. ...thats why I said some data is saved.
And with that Gamemonkey file...I wonder if the reboot that occurs is necessary... wonder if anyone can look into that to see if you can stop the reebot that occurs.....it would be a hassle if in the near future one can dowload a demo game from sony and each demo would have to reboot the psp. Probably not... only for a firmware update im guessing.

placasoft · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 53

Hey all,
need somehelp, i want to do that too. But i don�t know how I must config the DNS-Server. I use "Treewalk". Can you help me? tHx

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

From reading numerous posts and visiting sites, I think I have patched together a somewhat decent chain of events to get this browser working (all the gurus who pioneered this, corrections/help/comments are greatly appreciated)

-First, make my PSP go through a proxy that links to my machine's IP.
-Then, for people like me who don't have DNS servers - set my primary DNS server to "67.171.70.72" (that's fugimax's) and my secondary DNS back to my router
-then it should work?

I'm quite sure I'm missing steps, so any help would again be greatly appreciated.

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

how can it be done?
wouldn't that make it such that if my psp ever checked for a firmware update - it would just go to the fugimax site?

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

i'm on my psp - so under "IP Address setting" I click automatic
next is DNS setting - I click manual - and under primary and secondary I insert first Fugimax and then my router's ip right?

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

now it's asking me about using or not using a proxy server - what should I do?

I know that we got rid of telling it to connect to my desktop - so it should be a no right?

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

let me recap what I just did -
I went into Network Settings > Infrastructure Mode

>I created a new connection called "Browse"
>Then under WLAN settings I left it as it had been under "none"
>I then set Address settings as "Custom
>I then set IP Address settings as automatic
>I then set DNS Setting to Manual > Under primary DNS, I set it to Fugimax's IP, and under secondary set one of my own DNS servers that I got through IP config
>I then set "Proxy Server" to do no use
>And thats it.

anything wrong?

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

woot - now looking for my umd under the mess that is my desk and firing up the browser -

some last questions of mine - so all I need to do now is fire up the browser and it should load the site?

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

paragon · Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

yeah - srry >_< - thanks though for all your help

IceBerg · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 13

I know there are several threads, so those of you following them all can direct people to this for answers. Ive done some testing of the WOB(wipeout browser). Here are my findings so far:

HTML: yes
CSS: yes
Javascript: no
XML: no
XHTML: not tested yet
XSLT: no
Video/MP3 streaming: no
Forms: yes
Frames: no
Downloads: untested fully but since the mp3s failed Im guessing there is either some size limitation onit or this particular version will not download. We do know that downloading is possible as the JP units are able to dl updates to the bios. so this warrents further testing.

So frome these findings you can see the browser is very rudamentry. I can not use it here at the university as we have a web-proxy authentication, and that site uses frames. Thus I can notauthenticates, and therefore my MAC doesnt get added and I can not browse. There would be a way around if if say I had a second wireless card in the laptop. Now there have been several questions as to weather the browser is on the WO UMD, or in the bios. From what I can conclude, from talking to people who know more than I, this is not CURRENTLY in the bios, but was used with wipeout as they wanted to have the option to have downloadable content in the future. Since this is a sony release, implementing the browser didnt cause any immediate risks to outside sources having the code before it was finishe.

PLEASE keep in mind that some of that last par is technicaly rumor and has not been confirmedordisafirmed as of yet. It is however a great glimpse of what is to come.

Special thanks to roto and the guys who brought this to light. I will continue my testing and post further results. I hope that we get WPA support though, that would be soo nice.

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

IceBerg · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 13

Michael1980 · Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 3

So Asia is to get a browser from Sony on April 2. Anyone else read this?

Mawdsley · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 47 Location: UK

Roto got a mention on IGN :)

tbirdsaw · Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 10

IceBerg: I guess some things in JavaScript are implemented and others aren't. Which ones... I don't know (I'm not a programmer :-/ ) I do know that some simple things (like Alerts and simple JS stuff) seem to work.

Mawdsley: As I understand, there is no definite proof of where the browser is located. Until someone decompresses/decrypts the firmware update, I don't think we'll know for certain. Speculation that it is based in BIOS partly comes from the Agent String "SCEJ PSP BROWSER 0102pspNavigator," where SCEJ is Sony. However, because it doesn't seem well integrated (afaik), it looks like it was included on the disc itself.

I only have the US PSP, so I can't tell for certain. If anyone *does* have a V1, it would be very interesting to see what the Browser Agent String returns.

Oh, and if I goofed/missed anything, let me know. I'm still a newb. :-D

kry.sys · Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 82

what i dont get is how somthing so simple gets people fired up.. i found this out when i first loaded wipeout a week before na release. i thought to myself.. hmmm im gonna call other images off the net using my own dns server on my wlan.. well theres limitations as we all know now but its nothing to get all hyped about. damn

kry.sys · Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 82

oh.. this is like what i did for the firmware upload on my jp psp to try and put diferent md5s in the url to get and make dns point to my server with the new file. works if the file isnt modified but it was my check to see if the psp actualy used the md5 in its process. (it doesnt). Im not trying to downplay this effort (if you call it that) but its REALLY nothing to write an article about. you see an app pull an image off the web in any instance on any platform and its common knowledge that you can divert that info from somewhere else..

again.. sorry for the negitivity but i think we can push our efforts into more meaningful developments.

sethfogie · Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 5

Here is a detailed article on how the web browsing experience on the PSP works. From the proxy to the DNS spoofing, we show how to do it with your own computer, in your own house, and without any external DNS hacking.

For grins and giggles, we also figured out a way to more easily type in your own URL. If you have used the PSP interface, then you know it is a pain to type anything longer than a user handle. Our JavaScript PSP web based keyboard makes surfing the Internet a whole lot easier!

The article
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=381377

The keyboard
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=381377&seqNum=11